UPDATE: Sunday October 19, 2014 at 8am – “Thank You” to the Carolina Plott Hound for picking up this story.
*** Urgent Breaking News ***
They are registered to Vote! These individuals are NOT Citizens of our country.
What Is DACA
On June 15, 2012, the Secretary of Homeland Security announced that certain people who came to the United States as children and meet several guidelines may request consideration of deferred action for a period of two years, subject to renewal. They are also eligible for work authorization. Deferred action is a use of prosecutorial discretion to defer removal action against an individual for a certain period of time. Deferred action does not provide lawful status.
Here’s how it works; The DACA people are allowed to be issued Drivers Licenses. They go thru the NC DMV process and are issued a Drivers License that states NO LAWFUL STATUS.
Now, every week or so, the NC DMV submits a list to the North Carolina State Board of Elections in Raleigh. The people on these lists have been issued a NCDL, but they are NOT Eligible to Vote. Well, according to the NC State BoE, they have to double check with our Federal Department of Homeland Security via the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS).
Here is where things get ‘SCREWY’ — According to Kim Strach, The Executive Director of the NC State BoE, there are “an extremely large number” of people that the Feds say are Legal, yet they were not legal when they were issued DACA Drivers Licenses. One can NOT go from DACA Status this month, to Citizen Status next month. Or even in 4 or 5 months.
NC FIRE, North Carolinians For Immigration Reform and Enforcement, has been on top of this issue for a while now.
The following is a statement from James Johnson, President of NCFIRE;
I want to make something perfectly clear about the 10,000+ illegal alien voters on NC voter rolls. I am being questioned from all sides about the numbers I quoted. While there may not be exactly 10,000+ of the 14,836 illegals who have received a NC drivers license, I will stand by the fact that “an extremely large number of them are showing up on the NC voter rolls” because that is a direct quote from Kim Strach who is the Executive Director of the NC State Board of Elections.
I obtained the DACA license issue list (14,836 DACA licenses issued as of 9/20/14) from Sophia Spencer who is the Records Manager at the NC Department of Transportation.
Now, the person who is tasked with checking and removing the names from the NC voter rolls is Brian LiVecchi- special counsel to the NCSBOE.
During our initial conversation on Wed Oct 15th, we were discussing the DACA license issue list which is forwarded to his office every week by the NCDOT. I asked specifically about the 14,836 and how many were showing up on the voter rolls. He explained that the number was around 10,000+/-. On Fri. Oct 17th, he called me back saying he has been inundated with calls and wanted to “set the record straight” as to the 10,000 number he was referring to. That the numbers were nowhere near the 10,000 we were quoting. This was after the email we sent out statewide. His response was two-fold.
First, he explained the problem he was having is when they check the names (again) with DHS, the names were coming back as LEGAL. (Why they were being checked again is beyond me when they were already certified by the Federal Gov’t as illegal when they qualified for DACA status to obtain their NC drivers license). He continued, maybe they had been issued a green card, or had been granted permanent resident status, or became citizens, etc…. and simply didn’t inform the NCDMV and maybe that’s why they’re coming back from DHS as legal. (In any event, if the DACA names ARE coming back from DHS as being classified as LEGAL, then there is a big problem on the NATIONAL LEVEL in the states who opted to participate in the DACA license “program”. You can bet that they have DACA recipients on their voter rolls as well)
Well that makes no sense. Illegal aliens have to be “declared” DACA eligible by the Federal Gov’t if they want to obtain a NC drivers license. They complete the forms from the gov’t and take them to the NCDMV to obtain their license. There is NO question that they are illegal when they present the forms to the NCDMV and they are marked as such and issued a license that basically says so on it. They don’t have green cards, or haven’t been granted permanent resident status or any other classification other than illegal with deferred deportation status. If that’s the case, they would have weeded those out on a weekly basis so the list he is working on currently, wouldn’t be 10,000+/-. You don’t qualify as DACA one week and be granted a green card or permanent resident status the next. It simply doesn’t happen that way or that fast.
Second, he explained that he was having to go through every one of the registrations, one-at-a-time, that it takes several minutes to check each one and that there was no way to “batch check” them with the Federal Gov’t. He continued, having only one staff member, that we are having to pay an enormous amount of overtime to, he didn’t have enough staff to complete the job before the election much less before early voting begins on Oct 23rd.
Well, that was the intent of the email we sent out. It was to get him the help he needed to complete the checking process before the election in Nov.
And here is the second problem that we have with all of the explanations. If the numbers were no where near the figures we quoted, then why did Kim Strach, who is the Executive Director of the NCSBOE, say this in her response to Rep George Cleveland’s inquiry as to whether there was a problem with the DACA names on the voter rolls and why did Rep George Cleveland direct his assistant, Pamela Ahlin, to email it to every NC House member?
From here on down is the text of emails sent between NC Representative George Cleveland, Kim Strach of the NC SBoE, and James Johnson President of NCFIRE.
~~~ Begin Text of Email Correspondence ~~~
Rep. Cleveland asked me to send this information to you since you were copied on the request for information on the Oct. 12 email from NCFIRE.
Assistant to Rep. George Cleveland
NC General Assembly
Legislative Office Bldg.
300 N. Salisbury St. Suite 417A
Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
From: Strach, Kim [mailto:kimXXXXXXXXXXgov]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:03 PM
To: Rep. George Cleveland
Cc: Pamela Ahlin (Rep. George Cleveland)
Subject: Re: NC voter rolls and DACA licenses
I have been addressing this issue since last year. We do conduct audits that look at DMV data to identify non-citizens. We then have to verify info through Homeland Security and the results we have been receiving show there is an extremely large number of voters that appear not to be citizens in the data we get from DMV but are citizens we when verify with Homeland Security. We’re working with DMV to identify the issues.
Let me know if you have questions or want to talk.
On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:14 PM, “Rep. George Cleveland” <George.Cleveland@ncleg.net> wrote:
Kim – is there a problem here?
From: NCFIRE [mailto:NCFIRE@ncfire.info]
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 12:01 AM
Cc: Rep. Leo Daughtry; Rep. Julia Howard; Rep. Edgar Starnes; Rep. Mitchell Setzer; Rep. John M. Blust; Rep. Roger West; Rep. Linda Johnson; Rep. Paul Stam; Rep. Tim Moore; Rep. David Lewis; Rep. George Cleveland; Rep. J.H. Langdon; Rep. Nelson Dollar; Rep. Bryan Holloway; Rep. Pat Hurley; Rebecca Matthews (Rep. Ruth Samuelson); Rep. Thom Tillis (Speaker); Rep. Marilyn Avila; Rep. Hugh Blackwell; Rep. Jamie Boles, Jr; Rep. Justin Burr; Rep. Sarah Stevens; Rep. Frank Iler; Rep. John Faircloth; Rep. Craig Horn; Rep. John Torbett; Rep. Bill Brawley; Rep. Rayne Brown; Rep. Jeff Collins; Rep. Jimmy Dixon; Rep. Mike Hager; Rep. Kelly Hastings; Rep. Mark Hollo; Rep. Bert Jones; Rep. Jonathan Jordan; Rep. Tim Moffitt; Rep. Tom Murry; Rep. Phil Shepard; Rep. Michael Stone; Rep. Harry Warren; Rep. Dean Arp; Rep. John Bell; Rep. Robert Brawley; Rep. Mark Brody; Rep. Brian Brown; Rep. Rob Bryan; Rep. Dana Bumgardner; Rep. Rick Catlin; Rep. Debra Conrad; Rep. Ted Davis; Rep. Jeffrey Elmore; Rep. Jon Hardister; Rep. Charles Jeter; Rep. Donny Lambeth; Rep. Chris Malone; Rep. Susan Martin; Rep. Allen McNeill; Rep. Chris Millis; Rep. Larry Pittman; Rep. Michele Presnell; Rep. Nathan Ramsey; Rep. Dennis Riddell; Rep. Stephen Ross; Rep. Jason Saine; Rep. Jacqueline Schaffer; Rep. Michael Speciale; Rep. Bob Steinburg; Rep. John Szoka; Rep. Rena Turner; Rep. Andy Wells; Rep. Chris Whitmire; Rep. Carl Ford; House District 49’s Office; Rep. Nathan Baskerville; Rep. Josh Dobson; Rep. Roger Younts; Jay Delancy
Subject: Re: NC voter rolls and DACA licenses
Since I haven’t received a reply from my first inquiry, I am re-sending my questions:
#1- When was the last time the voter rolls were cross checked with the names and addresses of DACA license recipients and,
#2- Do you plan to check the voter rolls for names and addresses of DACA license recipients before early voting begins on Oct 23rd?
North Carolinians For Immigration Reform and Enforcement
NCFIRE Hotline: 1-888-885-0879 (anonymous reporting)
cell # 910-286-3022
Currently 45 states participate in the DACA Program.
Respectfully submitted by SilenceDogood2010 this Eighteenth Day of October in the Year of our Lord, Two Thousand and Fourteen.